Post by playachk on Mar 5, 2004 0:47:10 GMT -5
First im going to say a little something about Lady blue moon on my behalf, This is what I personally think of her: “Lady Blue moon is a great friend, Someone who will never stab you in the back unless you lie or deceive them, Since the beginning of NS I have been friends with her, Over the last I say 6 months I was able to get to know her more personally as a real friend. We communicated thru Email, Aim, Telegrams, Or MSN messenger. We were never able to meet in person or get to talk on the phone because of the distance between us. (Me living in The United States, Her in Bulgaria) But I was able to become good friends with her I would say best friends with her. A lot of people in NS don’t like her cause of what region she is in Blue moon the famous invader region, But she is a great person…once you get to know her underneath the skin, and underneath the rumors, She’s probley one of the nicest people out there…But that is my two cents on the matter now lets read what it fully going on”
At about 7 AM Pacific Time, Lady blue moon and all of her puppets were deleted and IP banned. This said when I woke up this morning and got online at 9:20 am Pacific Time, I get a IM on MSN messenger from Tactical grace stating the following to be and spoffin both, It may be harder to read so good luck:
Soffin says: hey
Tactical grace says: We both here?
Spoffin Says: yes
I (playa chk is back) says: yep
Tactical grace says: Great.
Tactical Grace says: We need to discuss Lady Blue Moon.
I (playa chk is back) says: whats wrong with her
I (playa chk is back) says: i hope yall know she is my friend
Spoffin says: we do playa
Tactical Grace says: As you may know, she has been deleted and IP banned.
I (playa chk is back) says: whoa
I (playa chk is back) says: what?
Spoffin Says: i wasn't aware of that
I (playa chk is back) says: when did this happen
Spoffin says: and why?
Tactical Grace says: I e-mailed you, Playa, I think.
Tactical Grace says: It happened a few hours ago.
Spoffin says: a greifing?
I (playa chk is back) says says: oh well i jst woke up up lol (noting: as in I hadn’t checked my emails)
Tactical Grace says: A long investigation showed she had been responsible for account thefts all over NS.
Spoffin says: hmm
Tactical Grace says: She was allegedly reading people TMs and passing on any intelligence.
Spoffin says: not nice
Tactical Grace says: As you know, she runs Blue Moon's intelligence outfit.
(finish of this part of IM evidence will continue in a bit)
Now To the above information I note that Tactical Grace Said she runs Blue moons intelligence Outfit, But She never gave out any information on any I.P. Addresse’s she may have had, and She never actually stole or changed the password to any ones account. Hence she only checked there telegrams. I would like to present the evidence on Nations she did check below that was told to me from the accuser (This was on Aol instant messenger, Note ely is lady blue moon, her screen name was changed for certain reasons, and roxysurferchk07 is me playa chk is back:
ely: let me see.....I have been in MrNonchalan nation
ely: in your nation (reffering to Me playa chk is back, which she was allowed in mine)
ely: in edward teach nation
ely: in Morvran's nations - with permision
ely:in Iron Jokers nations - he know, he let me do it
RoXySuRferChK07 (10:33:44 AM): u were allowed in mine
ely: in carrots nation - he doesn't mind
ely: in general goats nation
ely: in J_Ryan's nation - I did not do the ejecting, it wasn't me
ely: in Kriech's nations
ely: let me think what else....
ely: evia blue/red nations
Stated above was the conversation me and LBM (lady blue moon) had March 4, 2004.
So as you see yes she did go in to 5 nations without permission. And yes I know that was wrong but should a IP banning have been the right thing for her crime? I personally do not think so. I think a warning shouldve gone out stating the following to her “ We have noticed that you have been hacking into other nations accounts, If we see that you are still hacking into these accounts, You will be IP banned” Something like that, Instead she got no warning what so ever and just got deleted.
Here is another conversation I had with Tactical grace and Spoffin about her charges against her (used thru MSN messenger may be hard to understand):
TACTICAL GRACE SAYS: Playa, I am informing you of this fact because it is in your power to fix part of an NS security problem. Namely, her Admin powers at the MTNG forum. Normally, I would be unable to mention this sort of thing. But these are extraordinary circumstances. So it's not like I am being difficult, I am actually risking going beyond my remit here. It's nothing personal. Just a security thing.
I (PLAYA CHK IS BACK) SAYS: no i need to kno everythin TG everythin ur gonna blame her for so i can set up a full blown battle and letter to max berry...i need everythin
TACTICAL GRACE SAYS: Many off-site forums contain security gaps which allow Admin to collect user passwords. Many players at NS off-site forums use their national passwords to register. Lady Blue Moon has obtained Admin powers at several, including MTNG, and has hijacked numerous nations. Some are quite important ones. There is IP data which confirms this. Account theft is probably the most serious game rule violation
TACTICAL GRACE SAYS: This is all there is to know.
Firstly She was never an administrator accept for in the beginning weeks of our forum being made she was a global moderator which meant she had no way to see any IP address’s. Secondly the new proboards don’t show the passwords to the nation but only the IP address if you are the administrator.
Also stated above is What she is being blamed for, I must add this there is no known rule stating you can not get someones IP address and check there telegrams every once in a while. Change the rules now I suggest mods, Don’t blame her she checked the rules and it wasn’t telling her she couldn’t…Give her another chance and from now on officially if anyone uses a IP to get into peoples nations then you can Delete and IP ban them.
All I can do now is hope ALL of the NS moderators read the following and just think about giving blue moon lady a second chance…..And if she messes up her second chance you can delete me too. That’s all I have…Please consider it, And if you have any questions telegram Playa chk is back. Thank you.
The Un IP ban Lady blue moon now of playa chk is back.
Founder of Mercia the next generation.
Member of the AND Alliance,
Meber of the freedom Alliance,
Knight of freedom (Ireland).
At about 7 AM Pacific Time, Lady blue moon and all of her puppets were deleted and IP banned. This said when I woke up this morning and got online at 9:20 am Pacific Time, I get a IM on MSN messenger from Tactical grace stating the following to be and spoffin both, It may be harder to read so good luck:
Soffin says: hey
Tactical grace says: We both here?
Spoffin Says: yes
I (playa chk is back) says: yep
Tactical grace says: Great.
Tactical Grace says: We need to discuss Lady Blue Moon.
I (playa chk is back) says: whats wrong with her
I (playa chk is back) says: i hope yall know she is my friend
Spoffin says: we do playa
Tactical Grace says: As you may know, she has been deleted and IP banned.
I (playa chk is back) says: whoa
I (playa chk is back) says: what?
Spoffin Says: i wasn't aware of that
I (playa chk is back) says: when did this happen
Spoffin says: and why?
Tactical Grace says: I e-mailed you, Playa, I think.
Tactical Grace says: It happened a few hours ago.
Spoffin says: a greifing?
I (playa chk is back) says says: oh well i jst woke up up lol (noting: as in I hadn’t checked my emails)
Tactical Grace says: A long investigation showed she had been responsible for account thefts all over NS.
Spoffin says: hmm
Tactical Grace says: She was allegedly reading people TMs and passing on any intelligence.
Spoffin says: not nice
Tactical Grace says: As you know, she runs Blue Moon's intelligence outfit.
(finish of this part of IM evidence will continue in a bit)
Now To the above information I note that Tactical Grace Said she runs Blue moons intelligence Outfit, But She never gave out any information on any I.P. Addresse’s she may have had, and She never actually stole or changed the password to any ones account. Hence she only checked there telegrams. I would like to present the evidence on Nations she did check below that was told to me from the accuser (This was on Aol instant messenger, Note ely is lady blue moon, her screen name was changed for certain reasons, and roxysurferchk07 is me playa chk is back:
ely: let me see.....I have been in MrNonchalan nation
ely: in your nation (reffering to Me playa chk is back, which she was allowed in mine)
ely: in edward teach nation
ely: in Morvran's nations - with permision
ely:in Iron Jokers nations - he know, he let me do it
RoXySuRferChK07 (10:33:44 AM): u were allowed in mine
ely: in carrots nation - he doesn't mind
ely: in general goats nation
ely: in J_Ryan's nation - I did not do the ejecting, it wasn't me
ely: in Kriech's nations
ely: let me think what else....
ely: evia blue/red nations
Stated above was the conversation me and LBM (lady blue moon) had March 4, 2004.
So as you see yes she did go in to 5 nations without permission. And yes I know that was wrong but should a IP banning have been the right thing for her crime? I personally do not think so. I think a warning shouldve gone out stating the following to her “ We have noticed that you have been hacking into other nations accounts, If we see that you are still hacking into these accounts, You will be IP banned” Something like that, Instead she got no warning what so ever and just got deleted.
Here is another conversation I had with Tactical grace and Spoffin about her charges against her (used thru MSN messenger may be hard to understand):
TACTICAL GRACE SAYS: Playa, I am informing you of this fact because it is in your power to fix part of an NS security problem. Namely, her Admin powers at the MTNG forum. Normally, I would be unable to mention this sort of thing. But these are extraordinary circumstances. So it's not like I am being difficult, I am actually risking going beyond my remit here. It's nothing personal. Just a security thing.
I (PLAYA CHK IS BACK) SAYS: no i need to kno everythin TG everythin ur gonna blame her for so i can set up a full blown battle and letter to max berry...i need everythin
TACTICAL GRACE SAYS: Many off-site forums contain security gaps which allow Admin to collect user passwords. Many players at NS off-site forums use their national passwords to register. Lady Blue Moon has obtained Admin powers at several, including MTNG, and has hijacked numerous nations. Some are quite important ones. There is IP data which confirms this. Account theft is probably the most serious game rule violation
TACTICAL GRACE SAYS: This is all there is to know.
Firstly She was never an administrator accept for in the beginning weeks of our forum being made she was a global moderator which meant she had no way to see any IP address’s. Secondly the new proboards don’t show the passwords to the nation but only the IP address if you are the administrator.
Also stated above is What she is being blamed for, I must add this there is no known rule stating you can not get someones IP address and check there telegrams every once in a while. Change the rules now I suggest mods, Don’t blame her she checked the rules and it wasn’t telling her she couldn’t…Give her another chance and from now on officially if anyone uses a IP to get into peoples nations then you can Delete and IP ban them.
All I can do now is hope ALL of the NS moderators read the following and just think about giving blue moon lady a second chance…..And if she messes up her second chance you can delete me too. That’s all I have…Please consider it, And if you have any questions telegram Playa chk is back. Thank you.
The Un IP ban Lady blue moon now of playa chk is back.
Founder of Mercia the next generation.
Member of the AND Alliance,
Meber of the freedom Alliance,
Knight of freedom (Ireland).